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Billy T Live

Television (Excerpts) – 1990

The Producer's Perspective

On Billy T Live:


This was Billy's first show after his heart transplant. It was nip and tuck on whether we could make it happen. As usual finance was the problem and believe it or not there were many sceptics who believed Billy could not fill the [Aotea Centre] hall.

TV3 had just gone into bankruptcy; NZ on Air in those days could not invest money into a broadcast of what was basically a live show. TVNZ thought Billy was a ‘has been'. So we patched up an almost barter deal.

TV3 owed my company a swag of money so I got their OB [outside broadcast] Unit and editing/sound mixing machines for free. The Aotea Centre had not officially opened and we convinced them that this would be an excellent rehearsal for their facilities. The promoter bought the sets at cost for the Billy T live tour later that year.

That just left the cast and crew to be paid! We all knew that it was vital to get Billy's live act onto tape for posterity. And we all knew how important it was for Billy to get back to his career with a big splash. So wage deferments and quick company loans were organised on the late Friday afternoon in time for the sellout concert on the Sunday.


On first bringing Billy T to television:

I first saw Billy perform in early December 1978 at the Avondale Rugby League Club's Christmas dinner and dance. Not the most salubrious of venues to see a young entertainer. Billy was booked as the cabaret act. When he came on at 10.30pm the audience was, as they say in the sports world, "not on top of their game". 

So much so that when Billy started his comedy routine some alcohol-fueled couples got up to dance, thinking it was a rap number. But - and this was the astounding thing - within a couple of minutes Billy had them sitting, listening and laughing, and the untamable were eating out of his hand. I had never seen such a young entertainer do that before with such ease. He wasn't a great singer on the night; his jokes were silly and he had a very ordinary choice of songs, but by brilliant timing and sheer dint of personality he took a mainly inebriated crowd to a three encore finish.

The problem was how do you transfer that extraordinary talent to television, particularly as until that time, he had only made a single song appearance on The Ray Woolf Show.

It should be remembered in the late 1970s Māori were rarely seen on TV. The only regulars were Ernie Leonard in wrestling show On the Mat; Marama Martin, reader for Weekend News; and Derek Fox, a junior reporter on South Pacific's Wellington News. There were occasional exceptions, but generally Māori entertainers and actors were ill-used in TV entertainment shows. I was told Howard Morrison was too undisciplined for TV, that Bunny Walters was only good for two songs, and the rest were considered 'Ten Guitar' merchants. The old pink arrogance ...

Plus, to cast any unknown (whether beige or pink) - no matter how talented - into a position of carrying a comedy/entertainment show is "death by the first commercial break".

I had numerous meetings with Billy, trying to find his meter. One thing did become apparent: his ability to mimic anyone's accent. He had my bizarre Indian/British/Antipodean accent within one phone call, although I must admit that for the next 12 years of friendship he had the decency to do it behind my back.

At the same time as I was trying to see how we could transfer the Billy magic to TV, I visited the RNZ Timaru archive where I listened to original recordings of New Zealand radio shows of the 30s, 40s and 50s, which became the germ of the concept for Radio Times.

Discussing the idea of Radio Times with Billy, I realised that this was the perfect strategy to launch his talent. The idea was to get him to MC a variety show as someone who was the exact opposite to himself, surrounded by a strong cast, and push the comedy angle so that by the end of the second year the audience would be desperate for a Billy T James comedy series. Billy thought I was "barmy". But as he said, "a gig's a gig".

Normally show business strategies fall arse over tit in the first flush, but this one, due to Billy's extraordinary talents, worked.

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