For Martin Sagadin, "the goal is always to make movies with my friends. That is pretty fundamental to what I do". Also a painter and a musician, Sagadin's work as a filmmaker spans shorts, features, documentaries and music videos, with the latter keeping them especially busy. Sagadin has become a go-to music video director in Aotearoa: their regular collaborators include Aldous Harding, Marlon Williams and Nadia Reid. Sagadin’s style explores both the surreal (Harding's music video for 'The Barrel'), and the naturalistic (movie Spring Interlude). They chat to NZ On Screen about the importance of making mistakes, writing naturalistic dialogue, Aotearoa’s abundant filming locations and the "responsibility of showing an artist how they want to be shown".