In this 2003 interview with Kim Hill, former Prime Minister David Lange is both candid and upbeat. Aged 60 and battling ill health, Lange talks mortality, being a loner, and how powerless politicians often are. But he also finds positives: in living in Māngere, being a better parent, finally embracing vulnerability, and not being "haunted by death". Lange talks in detail about New Zealand's relationship with the United States and the world, after going anti-nuclear. He also recalls someone mistaking him for Robert Muldoon. Lange died in August 2005, two years after this interview — just as his autobiography hit book stores.